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Tenkara trivia

PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 5:09 pm
by jd_smith
I think this may be fun for the slow winter days. You can either list your answers by number below in the thread or send me a PM if you think you have them all. I'll keep checking in for correct answers. If you think you have them all correct, let me know and I will send you my list of answers via PM.

1) Where does Tenkara come from? Be specific.
2) Who founded Tenkara USA? And in what year?
3) In 2010 what 5 tenkara rod models were you able to buy from Tenkara USA?
4) Name 4 common style of kebari.
5) Who gave the first known written account of Tenkara?
6) What is tenkara rod flex and what does it do? Careful with this one. :?
7) Who is largely considered to have been the last commercial tenkara angler in Japan?
8) Name the Japanese art of fish prints.
9) Name 4 Japanese trout or land locked salmon.
10) Name 5 main techniques used with the traditional unweighted kebari.
11) Name the first 6 kebari offered by Tenkara USA?
12) Give another name for fishing this style we call Tenkara.
13) On Daniels most recent trip to Japan he fished with two very well known Tenkara anglers (dare I say masters) Who were they?
14) What did Dr. Ishigaki tell Daniel when he wants him to keep moving to search for fish?
15) Name the mythical Japanese god of fishing.
16) Dr Ishigaki first learned of tenkara from what book? Name the Book.

Well I'm going to stop there for now. If were having too much fun with it, I'll post some more Questions. Or if someone wants to add there own list that would be cool too.

Good luck and have fun with it.

Re: Tenkara trivia

PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 11:55 pm
by dwalker
I have two questions to add to your list. ( actually there are 8 new questions added, some questions related to the original trivia questions.)

A. The name or word "Tenkara" originated in what area of Japan?
A2. What Japanese essayists, or outdoors journalist, is believed responsible for spreading the name Tenkara, for this type of Japanese fly fishing?
A3. Who taught him about Tenkara?

B. Who is the Japanese Tenkara fisherman, or Tenkara Master, who has been referred to as the Magician of Super Long Lines ?

Hints:
It is not Masami Sakakebara, aka Tenkara no oni. ( well, could be. But there is another person)
You will frequently see him at the various Japanese Gatherings of Tenkara fans.
His name has been mentioned by 2 different people on this forum. One person who mentioned his name has only made 3 post to the forum.
Neither person who posted his name, mentioned the Magician of Super Long Lines title. But did mention his amazing casting skill.

Bonus related question.
B2. What kind of line does he cast?


Two people on the forum, and you know who you are, are disqualified from answering the question. Or at least - requested not to answer it to soon.

:)
D

A few of my answers, + additional questions:
1. Mountain streams of Japan
2. Daniel , 2009.
3. Ayu, Iwana, Yamame, Amago, Ebisu.

5. Ernest Satow.
Related questions:
C. What area of Japan did E. Satow witness Tenkara Fishing?
C2. What was the name of his Tenkara angler guide?

6. Ratio number hinting at bending curve of the rod. Essentially a percentage of length ratio of stiffer / softer sections. Example 6:4 , 60% of length is stiffer base sections / 40% of length is softer tip sections.

8. I won't answer this one.
D. But - what type of Tenkara line comes in a package that has a reproduction of this type of print or art. (From one supplier of this type of line )

15. See last rod in answer #3.
16. I can not name the book Dr. I read.
E. In what book did Daniel first read about Tenkara?


I will leave the rest for others.

Re: Tenkara trivia

PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 1:53 am
by jd_smith
No real sure about some of these D.

Answers for #1 related questions
A
A2 Dr Ishigaki
A3 no body. He first read about it in a book. He also learned form experience and interviewing many others

B. Go?
B2. Nylon mono


Answers for 5 related questions
c. Japanese Alps, with numerous mentions of Mt. Tate (or Tateyama) and Mt. Ontake. Specifically; July 24, 1878: iwana caught in the Kurobe-gawa with a fly made of cock’s feathers

C2. It is thought his guide in this areas was Mr. Shinaemon Toyama

8 D. Titanium Alloy from Tenkara Times

Re: Tenkara trivia

PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 10:59 am
by scorpion1971
Time to stir the pot.

#12. Dapping.

Re: Tenkara trivia

PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 11:22 am
by jd_smith
scorpion1971 wrote:Time to stir the pot.

#12. Dapping.


Funny Mike :lol: But wrong. It is a Japanese name for this style I'm looking for.

Re: Tenkara trivia

PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:09 pm
by adventureR
I saw this post JD_ and immediately thought NERDS! also embraced my own inner Tenkara nerd.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gZEdDMQZaC ... ZEdDMQZaCU

1) Where does Tenkara come from? Be specific.
-A salivary response to a delicious protein source in really cold water.

4) Name 4 common style of kebari.
-All four types are simply classified as weird that I tie.

6) What is tenkara rod flex and what does it do? Careful with this one.
-A common flex effect caused by fish disrupting the cast. Rod flex is directly proportional to adrenalin levels in the blood and stupid faces.

7) Who is largely considered to have been the last commercial tenkara angler in Japan?
-Commercial Tenkara anglers are still around in Japan, only now catching people instead of fish with gear.

8) Name the Japanese art of fish prints.
-I so enjoy seeing what I've hooked in muddy river water. Gyotaku is really cool in a way reminds me of the beauty captured only in a different visually fun way.

12) Give another name for fishing this style we call Tenkara.
-Singapore Cane Poling.

14) What did Dr. Ishigaki tell Daniel when he wants him to keep moving to search for fish?
- ああ、あなたは邪魔にあなたの大切な頭を入手してくださいね!

Re: Tenkara trivia

PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:13 pm
by jd_smith
adventureR wrote:I saw this post JD_ and immediately thought NERDS! also embraced my own inner Tenkara nerd.


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Re: Tenkara trivia

PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:17 pm
by dwalker
dwalker wrote:A. The name or word "Tenkara" originated in what area of Japan?
A2. What Japanese essayists, or outdoors journalist, is believed responsible for spreading the name Tenkara, for this type of Japanese fly fishing?
A3. Who taught him about Tenkara?


jd_smith wrote:No real sure about some of these D.
Answers for #1 related questions
A
A2 Dr Ishigaki
A3 no body. He first read about it in a book. He also learned form experience and interviewing many others

A = Kiso
A2 = Mr Soseki Yamato
A3 = Dr Hideki Sugimoto

"The word "Tenkara" was used at Kiso area and it was spread from there by many writings etc. of Mr. Soseki Yamamoto of an essayist and an angler who studied "Tenkara" under Dr. Hideki Sugimoto who lived in this area. Its word became pronoun of Traditional Japanese fly fishing now. No one knows for certain why it's called tenkara...."

See
http://www.hi-ho.ne.jp/amago/b-streams/flytying/tenkara.html

Re: Tenkara trivia

PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:50 pm
by dwalker
dwalker wrote:B. Who is the Japanese Tenkara fisherman, or Tenkara Master, who has been referred to as the Magician of Super Long Lines ?

Bonus related question.
B2. What kind of line does he cast?
...


jd_smith wrote:B. Go?
B2. Nylon mono


B = Mr. Takekabu (竹株渓遊)[ Take kabu Kei Yū]
B1 = around 0.28 mm dia "nylon level line"

http://www.tenkarausa.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2
Higuchi wrote:Hi,
... I saw in a video that a master (Mr. takekabu) use around 0.28 mm dia "nylon level line". He cast the nylon 10meter line (!) using only 3meter super stiff rod!
It is controversial in literature, but I believe that stiff rod is prefereable for casting light and long line form my experimence. The stiff rod might be easier to make hard edged powerful backcast which might one of the most important tip to use light line.



http://www.tenkarausa.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=2718&p=19536&hilit=takekabu#p19536
Eddie wrote:There is a master who is famous for his superhuman casting technique. He casts a 23' #4 nylon level line + 4' #2 nylon tippet with a 10' rod. This master is Mr. Takekabu (竹株渓遊), and you can find his name on the net. .....
Eddie

Eddie wrote:Regarding videos of his casting, I don't think they are available through the net or any other ways. ....
I don't know now how long a line that technique can cast. Mr. Takekabu says he cast 30' line including tippet by that technique.
....


http://tenkaratoyama.jugem.jp/?eid=59
( Some of the translation is clearly not accurate and a bit strange, yet some is clear)
超ロングラインの魔術師 (Chō rongu rain no majutsu-shi)
竹株渓遊師 ( Take kabu Kei Yū-shi)

Magician of the super long line or Super long line Magic Master
Takekabu River Yu Master

Re: Tenkara trivia

PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 7:54 pm
by dwalker
dwalker wrote:Related questions:
C. What area of Japan did E. Satow witness Tenkara Fishing?
C2. What was the name of his Tenkara angler guide?

D. But - what type of Tenkara line comes in a package that has a reproduction of this type of print or art. (From one supplier of this type of line )
.....


jd_smith wrote:....
Answers for 5 related questions
c. Japanese Alps, with numerous mentions of Mt. Tate (or Tateyama) and Mt. Ontake. Specifically; July 24, 1878: iwana caught in the Kurobe-gawa with a fly made of cock’s feathers

C2. It is thought his guide in this areas was Mr. Shinaemon Toyama

This 7:49 video, tenkara 1, was posted March 14, 2010, shows Masami Sakarkibara fishing, some of the Tenkara exhibits at the Omachi museum ( at 3:00) ( sounds like it is narrated by Dr. Ishigaki) , then an interview with Bunpei Sonehara , at 4:36, ( who I believe was the last professional Tenkara fisherman in Japan, an answer to one of the other trivia questions), btw he is a thumb on top caster, then returns to Masami Sakakibara fishing. The video is in Japanese with some Italian subtitles. I would guess it was made before 2010.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyXNE0bJxoA

D. Titanium Alloy from Tenkara Times


http://www.discovertenkara.co.uk/about-tenkara/short-history-of-tenkara/

From the information on the above website. See it for more information.

"The famous entry in Satow's diary reads “Last night we had for dinner capital fish called iwana caught in the Kurobe-gawa, with a fly made of cock’s feathers, weighing ¾ lbs”. The existence of the very rod owned by Satow’s guide Shinaemon Toyama (picture kindly provided with permission to use by the Omachi Alpine Museum) lends great credibility to this reference as the first written description of tenkara-style fishing in Japan."

C = Omachi region or Nagano Prefecture is what I was looking for. However, it is also called the Japanese Alps.
C2 = Shinaemon Toyama

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%8Cmachi,_Nagano

D = Correct . The TTT titanium lines come folded in heavy stock paper with one of several fish print images.
That are provided by this artiist.
http://www.freshcatchgyotaku.com/

;)
D