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Understanding the Japanese 号数 line numbering system

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Understanding the Japanese 号数 line numbering system

Postby dwalker » Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:51 am

Earlier this evening I read a two year old blog post on Tenkara Talk about the Understanding Tenkara Level Lines. With some editing, I posted the following information there. Since it was a two year old blog post and might not be seen by people who do not understand the numbering system. I thought I'd post it here.

The Japanese line numbering system numbers are multiples ( or ratios) of the Cross Sectional Area of the lines - referenced to the Cross Sectional Area of 1号 line.

The Japanese line tables provide a list of lines in the order of the Index or Issue number ( 号数). The tables give the diameter of the lines in millimeters ( mm).

Here is one such table from the Oni web site. Note the 号数 ( Gōsū or Gō Kazu) numbers in the left column. And the Line Diameter , 直径 ( Chokkei) , in mm in the center column.

http://www.oni-tenkara.com/english/tool/oniline.html
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To understand the 号数 system you only have to understand that the numbers are the ratios of the cross sectional area of the lines in square mm, ( mm^2) referenced to the size of 1号 line. Not some multiple of the diameter of the line.

Maybe making the line table this way makes it clearer, ( you can easily see sizes larger than 1 are a multiple of the size of the reference 1号数 line. Which is not so evident when looking at a table of line diameters) :

1号 = .0213825 mm^2
2号 = .0433736
3号 = .0637939
4号 = .0855298
5号 = .1069123

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Update:
( I forgot to add that you can also think of the Japanese line numbering system as being according to the weight of the line. That also has a linear relationship. Which makes sense if you think of the line being a cylinder with a certain volume. Cylinders of increasing diameters but of the same length, made of the same material will have increasing weights.)

When line is manufactured it is measured in Denier = X grams/9000m. 9000 m of line may sound like a lot of line, but it would only be 450 20m spools. Again 1号 is the reference Denier value. Denier value will vary from manufacturer to manufacturer. But here are Denier values from one company for their fluorocarbon line.

1号 = 340 Denier
2号 = 680
3号 = 1020
4号 = 1360
5号 = 1700
1.5号 = 510
2.5号 = 850

As you can see;
Size 2号 line is 2x the weight of 1号 line.
Size 4号 line is 4x the weight of 1号 line.
Size 5号 line is 2x weight of 2.5号 line.

Thinking of the line in terms of weight might be more useful if you want to make a hand tied tapered line and want to match the line weights for best balance. But my main purpose is just to give an insight to the numbering system. By CSA or Denier, which ever way you prefer to think of it, maybe now you understand what the numbers mean.
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The line industry only has a standard for nylon line of 1号 = .165mm diameter. Fluorocarbon line borrows this standard for line diameter. And size 1号 is the reference diameter. ( at least that is my understanding)
iow : 4号 will be 4x the cross sectional area (CSA) as the CSA of 1号 line.

( CSA = pi x radius squared)
[ I'm sure you recall the old Beverly Hillbillies joke, Pie are round, Cornbread are square] :)

For example:

CSA 1号 = pi x (.0825mm)^2 = .021382465 mm^2.
{ diameter 1号= .165mm in line tables. And .165mm/2 = the radius of 1号 line = .0825mm}

Thus .021382465 mm^2 is the reference CSA for the other sizes of line.

CSA 1.5号 = pi x (.1025)^2 = .033006358 mm^2
CSA 1.5号/CSA 1号 = .033006/.021382 = 1.54

CSA 2号 = pi x (.1175)^2 = .043373614mm^2.
CSA2号/CSA1号 = .043374/.021382 = 2.02

CSA 3号 = .063793966 mm^2.
CSA3号/CSA1号 = .063794/.021382 = 3 (actually = 2.98347)

CSA4号/CSA1号 = .0855299/.021382 = 4.0

And so on. It also works for smaller sized line.

5X tippet = .8号 = .148mm.

CSA .8号 = .017203361 mm^2 .
CSA .8号 / CSA 1号 = .80455.

Hopes this helps you to understand the 号数 ( Issue Number) line sizing system. ;)

However, you will find variations. One post on TT stated the TUSA 4.5号 line has a diameter of .365 mm.

Which works out to CSA TUSA 4.5号 = .10463467 mm^2
CSA TUSA 4.5号/ CSA 1号 = 4.89348 . Which is closer to 5号 than to 4.5号. Apparently they are rounding down to 4.5号.

I think you will find variations between manufacturers and how they decide to round the diameters to standard size numbers or due to manufacturing tolerances. Especially sizes other than 1号 line. To be consistent with the system 4.5号 would have a CSA of .0962211 mm^2 , and a diameter of .350 mm.

Now you know where the numbers come from. ;)
If it matters to you. :roll:

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