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Playing a big fish

Postby Paul Gaskell » Tue Aug 14, 2012 12:57 am

Hi, although we plan to add some video illustrations soon, I thought I'd pass on a link to some thoughts and illustrations on some things to try when you find yourself attached to that huge fish. Hope you like it:

http://www.discovertenkara.co.uk/playing-fish/

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Re: Playing a big fish

Postby oleg » Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:07 pm

Great article, Paul!
Even I'm not experiensed in tenkara trophey fishing, I find the discussion very interesting:
Jeremy Lucas wrote:http://www.tenkaratimes.co.uk/tenkara-blog/leader-onlytechniques
Rob Worthing replied:http://www.tenkaratimes.co.uk/tenkara-blog/bigfishtenkara
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Re: Playing a big fish

Postby oleg » Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:24 pm

Look at new Jeremy's post:http://www.tenkaratimes.co.uk/tenkara-blog/leader-onlytechniqueandtenkara2ndissue
It made me begin to doubt in my approach to the selection of a leader.
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Re: Playing a big fish

Postby tsegelke » Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:46 pm

Being fall, and the time of the big guys trying to fatten up before winter. This topic is very relevant.

My experience is that you can definitely hook into that surprise. When you do, this article is right on. Change the direction often, change the direction of the drive, not fight against it.

My only advice, if you know the fish is too much for the rod, break off quick to save the rod.

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Re: Playing a big fish

Postby erik.ostrander » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:52 am

Paul,
Your article is excellent. It outlines some very important parts of landing a fish. Recently, I had lost your link, and searched for days to find it again. I wanted to link it in our recent article with a similar topic : Landing Big Fish in Big Water with your Tenkara Rod.
Again, excellent write up.

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Re: Playing a big fish

Postby erik.ostrander » Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:06 am

oleg wrote:Look at new Jeremy's post:http://www.tenkaratimes.co.uk/tenkara-blog/leader-onlytechniqueandtenkara2ndissue
It made me begin to doubt in my approach to the selection of a leader.


Another well written article. Horse hair lines are superior in every way I can think of, except for durability and strength. I believe they are best for open water with little to snag on, and fish below 40 cm (15.8"). Jeremy notes that one of the difficulties is connecting the sections. I believe this is where horsehair loses most of its strength.
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Re: Playing a big fish

Postby Wupperfischer » Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:33 pm

erik.ostrander wrote:Another well written article. Horse hair lines are superior in every way I can think of, except for durability and strength. I believe they are best for open water with little to snag on, and fish below 40 cm (15.8"). Jeremy notes that one of the difficulties is connecting the sections. I believe this is where horsehair loses most of its strength.


My experience is that the lines don´t break at the knot, they break in the middle part:
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I use this knot to connect the segments
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Have you read this:
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Re: Playing a big fish

Postby Stroover » Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:30 pm

I'm totally new to this. In fact, I haven't tried it yet, though I've aquired a tenkara rod. I'm not sure I want to try it, because in the river I fish trout, I occaisionally catch wild Atlantic salmon, and there's no way I'd be able to land it without breaking the rod or line, and even if I could play it long enough to land, it would be exhausted by then and would likely die.

Any recommendations for a noob like myself?
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Re: Playing a big fish

Postby dwalker » Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:00 pm

Stroover wrote:I'm totally new to this. .., I occaisionally catch wild Atlantic salmon, and there's no way I'd be able to land it without breaking the rod or line, ..
Any recommendations for a noob like myself?


I have no experience catching A.Salmon and only occasionally a large brown, maybe 17" max. My understanding is that A. Salmon run on average 28 -30" and over 8#. Which I think is outside the range for Tenkara.

How big a fish you could reasonably target with the Tenkara rod you have depends upon the rod model you have, its flex profile and how stiff or how much 'backbone' it has. You'll have to make that determination or provide the details so others here who routinely catch big fish can offer an opinion.

That being said. Here are a couple of links to videos of folks catching large fish on Tenkara rods, though not 30" , 12# fish, maybe it will be some help. Most fish I catch are 12" +/_ 4 or 5 inches, mostly minus. :roll:

Daniel G vs Large Brown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNW4UJs7J14

New Zealand 7# Brown
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlE9aRdxu5s

fwiw. I think if you are going to target 30" fish you'll need a different tool. But if that is wishful thinking and most fish hooked are going to be 12" - 16" range and your model of tenkara rod is appropriate for this range of fish then fish it. Just don't go to big on the tippet. Probably better to let monster fish break off. Just 2 cents from a small fish guy. Maybe someone who routinely catches bigger fish will chime in and offer you better advice.

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Re: Playing a big fish

Postby Stroover » Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:48 am

Trout in this river range from 8" to 20", and salmon go from grils to full fledges salmon. I released a twenty pounder last year. So I might refrain from using the tenkara on that river, but I might use it on another river where there are few to no salmon but all trout.
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