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learning to tie

Postby Bill_DeLanney » Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:26 pm

A beginner learning to tie a kebari fly. My question is how do you keep the finishing tool when wrapping from grabbing the fly?
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Re: learning to tie

Postby Jason Klass » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:17 pm

I'm not sure I understand the question. By "grabbing the fly", do you mean trapping the hackle?
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Re: learning to tie

Postby dwalker » Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:12 am

Bill, largely, I think, it's just a matter of experience tying flies to avoid tangling the hackle with the thread when finish tying the thread.

One way to avoid it would be to tie the fly so that the thread finish knot finish is front of the hackle, next to the hook eye.

Another strategy that makes it easier to tie off the thread behind the hackle would be to buy a larger whip finish tool. Some companies do make a larger size whip finish tools, usually marketed to people tying larger salt water flies. You can find them with names such as: extended reach whip finisher or long reach whip finisher or just large whip finisher tool.

The no cost method would be to learn how to do a whip finish by hand. A skill you ought to learn how to do anyway. After a few practice tries you should be able to rotate the thread around some pretty long bushy hackle. Here are links to a couple of videos that might help you learn how to do a hand whip finish.

How to Hand Whip Finish
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Evnf99pLPY

How to Whip Finish without a Whip Finisher Tool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_FhvuF55mM

If you're a DIY / MYO kind of guy, you can make a super large whip finish tool as this guy did
Fly Tying With A Giant Whip Finishing Tool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4ZJOENz4xE

Another no cost way is to just use shorter hackle. But mostly avoiding getting the thread entangled with the hackle while tying the finish knot just comes with more experience tying fllies. It's the old joke about - How do I get to Carnegie Hall? Practice. aka tenacious persistence.

Good luck for future success.
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Re: learning to tie

Postby Bill_DeLanney » Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:02 am

Thank you very much for the info. I am learning to hand tie the whip finish. For me, it’s much easier and I can put the finish wherever I need to. Learning and having fun!
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Re: learning to tie

Postby dwalker » Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:34 pm

Bill, one other stradegy I forgot to mention is to try using an o-ring to hold the hackle out of the way.

You can see one being used in this video:
How To Tie a Tenkara With Small Ring- Easily - DIY - Fishing Tips - Fishing Hacks

https://youtu.be/oWZj6nRx1w8?t=137


Or see a screen shot from the video of the o-ring being used in this forum post from a couple of years ago. 4th post down from the top.

Need Help Finishing Flys
https://www.tenkarausa.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=5942

You could of course use the o-ring to push the hackle either forward or backward to keep it out of the way. And also use it whether doing a hand whip finish or using a finishing tool. Something else to try. ;)

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