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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:36 pm 
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I find this line storage method pictured fairly often on different web sites.

The peak of ultralight simplicity. ;)

Maybe ok if the line isn't too long.

http://blog-imgs-45.fc2.com/k/e/b/kebaritsuri/IMGP7046_convert_20110723214239.jpg

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:45 pm 
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Never seen this before, wonder how well this works. Might have to look into this a bit. Mahalo for posting this picture dwalker!

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:54 pm 
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I usually do that way when I need to collapse the rod for a short time. The line gets coiled a bit, though.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 10:22 am 
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Eddie wrote:
........ The line gets coiled a bit, though.


Oh, for sure. With so many tight turns I think you wouldn't want to keep the line coiled long enough for the memory to set in with level line. And level line or traditional line, I think you would not want to wrap a very long line this way. I think that is why I have only seen this method of line storage pictured on web sites where they were fishing small mountain streams. For fishing larger streams using longer lines I think there are better options.

For a better idea of the type areas I have seen this method used a few pics from the web page where the previously posted picture was found. Other web sites where I've seen this method of line storage used were similar streams. :)

http://kebaritsuri.blog45.fc2.com/blog-date-201205.html

http://kebaritsuri.blog45.fc2.com/blog-category-1.html

From line storage to line cutting. 8-)
On this same web page I also discovered some nifty little scissors that slide into its own housing with a thumb slide. 8-) 8-)

http://kebaritsuri.blog45.fc2.com/blog-date-201102.html

I thought they looked so useful I've asked TB Chris to order me a pair of its successor design the - daiwa chibi chokkin II, ダイワ ちびちょっきんII . And also a pair of a slightly more robust model aimed at Ayu fishermen called the ダイワ MS-74S, capable of cutting light wire. I'm looking forward to getting them. :)

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:32 pm 
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I opened up two of the sites you mentioned:

http://kebaritsuri.blog45.fc2.com/blog-date-201205.html

http://kebaritsuri.blog45.fc2.com/blog-category-1.html

but it was all just japanese writing. Were there pictures on these sites? I clicked on some stuff but just more writing. Thanks.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:03 am 
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sandtrout wrote:
I opened up two of the sites you mentioned:
.......
but it was all just japanese writing. Were there pictures on these sites? Thanks.



ST,
its one of those mysteries of the interenet. Yes there were pictures. Lots of pictures. In fact the picture that still shows in the initial post is from that web site and it still works for some reason. While the rest of the web site no longer works. :?
There were links on the right that went back to each month for the previous 4 years. Those are all gone too. So who knows - maybe the server is down, maybe the increased hits on the site, because I posted links on TUSUA forum, exceeded his bandwidth or he was charged extra money for the increased net traffic and cut it off, who knows.

Not too important really. The top 2 links really just showed the type areas where he was winding the line on the cork grip - narrow streams high in the mountains. It appeared he backpacked in to some rugged looking areas. The kind of areas where it might be necessary to collapse the rod and store the line briefly to hike into the next area of the stream.

By the way I tried this with a line that was about 14 ft long including the tippet. It works ok - But when you take the line off the cork grip - spool it off the side as the rod turns. If you let it coil off the end of the cork grip the line does indeed become tangles. Because of the larger diameter of the blue line spools, about 68mm, the line will wrap quicker on to the spool. Winding line on the handle is probably something to use if you loose your blue spool or you really want to go as light and simple as possible.

As for the other link about the scissors / line cutter.

He posted pictures of some cool scissors - similar to these -
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Which I think have now been replaced by a newer model - ok to cut fluorocarbon line.
http://www.ps-katsuki.co.jp/item_page/969_11883.html

They also make a model called MS-74S - looks more like the old model - its marketed to Ayu fisherman and is apparently a more robust model and capable of cutting wire.

http://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/s/?@0_mall/backlash/cabinet/item34/4960652456388-sp1.jpg

http://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/s/?@0_mall/backlash/cabinet/item34/4960652456388-color.jpg

I thought the scissors looked , handy and cool. 8-) So asked TB to order one of each for me. Hope I find them as handy as I imagine they will be. :)

:: 7/19 - update - the mystery of why the links with pictures posted earlier no longer works has been solved. After 3 days with the image and archive links not returning I clicked a couple of the links on the web page and I found this:

" ... 訳あって当ブログを閉鎖することにいたしました。...『一身上の都合』
...皆さん、長い間ご覧いただき本当にありがとうございました。

Have decided to shut down this blog for a reason. .. [ personal reason]
Everyone, thank you very much for viewing for a long time."

Just bad timing that I posted links to his blog just days before he closed it. To bad too. He had a lot of great images from high mountain streams on the blog. - D

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