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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:46 pm 
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rsetina wrote:
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Its not practical for me. I like mine to be waterproof and holds individual flies securely. You drop that box of yours once with the lid open and you're liable to lose your precious flies. A strong gust of wind may even do the same. I'm not a big fan of those box with little door compartments either. A wooden box such as yours is made more for aesthetic in my honest opinion. If you all disagree, no problem. To each his own. Besides, I'd be afraid to get a beautiful wood work like that get wet even if its treated.

What's the dimension and weight of your box?


Thanks for you're input Horn. All good points and I can't disagree with you on any of them. Dropping the box, wind, water can all be a problem. Anyone using one will have to be careful when on the water with it.

I don't know the weight, I never weighed it. It's not heavy at all. The bottom is only 1/8 of an inch thick and the sides are a 1/4 inch thick. The dimensions are 3.75 X 3.25 inches. It will fit in your shirt pocket. That's another thing, don't bend over unless your shirt pocket is buttoned. Though it will float so it wouldn't be too hard to retrieve it as long as the water isn't running faster than you can run down river. ;)



Whew, glad you're not upset because like I said, its a beautiful piece of work. I was going to add that on one of my C&F type box, I've attached a zinger to it so I can then pin the zinger to my shirt. I lost/dropped a box not too long ago loaded with flies. I'm hoping the zinger will prevent that from happening again.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 7:21 am 
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rsetina wrote:

I don't know the weight, I never weighed it. It's not heavy at all. The bottom is only 1/8 of an inch thick and the sides are a 1/4 inch thick. The dimensions are 3.75 X 3.25 inches. It will fit in your shirt pocket.


The box weighs 3.7 oz.

I've never had flies blow out of a compartment box and I can only remember 2 times where I dropped my box in the water. Both times, I was able to retrieve the box, let the flies dry out and everything was fine. So, I guess I'm not really concerned about this.

I have several C & F waterproof boxes but don't like foam all that much and think they're heavy & bulky for trout flies. I mostly use foam boxes for saltwater flies. For trout flies, I prefer compartments.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:14 am 
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jasonklass wrote:
I can only remember 2 times where I dropped my box in the water. Both times, I was able to retrieve the box, let the flies dry out and everything was fine.



Have you found anything has happened to the box since dropping it in the water? Warping or anything at all? And did the water bead off of the tune oil finish? I guess you can say you're my field tester.

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テンカラ。小さなストリームのシンプルさ。
My Tenkara Rods:
13' Ayu, 12' Yamame, 11' with a conversion handle, and an Ito.

My Wife's Tenkara Rods:
12' Ebisu and 13.5' Amago, 12' Iwana with a conversion handle, and an Ito.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:19 am 
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rsetina wrote:
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I can only remember 2 times where I dropped my box in the water. Both times, I was able to retrieve the box, let the flies dry out and everything was fine.



Have you found anything has happened to the box since dropping it in the water? Warping or anything at all? And did the water bead off of the tune oil finish? I guess you can say you're my field tester.


Hi Rick, it wasn't your box I dropped. It was a different box years ago. Haven't dropped this one yet and am not worried about it.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 5:48 pm 
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rsetina wrote:
Horn_Identity wrote:
Its not practical for me. I like mine to be waterproof and holds individual flies securely. You drop that box of yours once with the lid open and you're liable to lose your precious flies. A strong gust of wind may even do the same. I'm not a big fan of those box with little door compartments either. A wooden box such as yours is made more for aesthetic in my honest opinion. If you all disagree, no problem. To each his own. Besides, I'd be afraid to get a beautiful wood work like that get wet even if its treated.

What's the dimension and weight of your box?


Thanks for you're input Horn. All good points and I can't disagree with you on any of them. Dropping the box, wind, water can all be a problem. Anyone using one will have to be careful when on the water with it.

I don't know the weight, I never weighed it. It's not heavy at all. The bottom is only 1/8 of an inch thick and the sides are a 1/4 inch thick. The dimensions are 3.75 X 3.25 inches. It will fit in your shirt pocket. That's another thing, don't bend over unless your shirt pocket is buttoned. Though it will float so it wouldn't be too hard to retrieve it as long as the water isn't running faster than you can run down river. ;)


I like the dimension of your box and should definitely fit in just about any shirt pocket. Good to hear that it floats as well. Your box is 3.7 oz. according to jasonklass.

That weight and comment by jasonklass prompt me to do further assessment of my more "practical" fly box. My C&F type box I got from STP with a discount came to around $12 has pretty much similar dimension though I think its just slightly bigger. Regular price I believe is $17.95. It definitley fits in any of my fishing shirt's pocket and the cost doesn't hurt the pocket either.

From STP: The dimension of the small C&F type box. Waterproof, with foam inside securing individual trout flies.
•Holds 216 flies (18 flies to a row)
•Dimensions (HxWxD): 5-½x3-½x1-½"
•Weight: 3.8 oz.
•Material: Composite box with rubber waterproof gasket

I was curious to the actual weight so I placed it on my kitchen scale and came to 3.7 oz. with flies inside.
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Upright with box open, showing all flies secured and making it easy to pick the pattern you want instead of separating clumped flies inside a compartment.
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I added a zinger so that I can pin it to my shirt/pack/bag adding security from dropsies, buttoned pocket or not.
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Box is small enough to fit in my fishing shirts's pocket with room to spare. I don't find it bulky at all plus I find the round edges comfortable..
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High floater for sure. I'm thinking of putting a hi-vis type reflective/sticker so that I can find it easier in the dark.
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Pictures speak for themselves. Not as pretty as rsitina's box no doubt but I was talikning about fishing practicality. .

rsitina, you selling your box or is this a show and tell but not for sale? How much? I like wooden fly box.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:04 pm 
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They are for sale Horn. I sell them for $65 due to the time it takes to make them. The wooden hinge is the more time consuming part. There are 6 steps to making one hinge and that doesn't count the time it takes to sand it smooth and to make it open and close smoothly. There's alot of work that goes into them, therefore the price. I was told that at the local fly shop they would sell it for $100. I was shocked! But they have wood boxes there for $150. Definitely a small market for them but I enjoy the process of making them and if they sell, I'm happy for the person who gets use out of them.

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テンカラ。小さなストリームのシンプルさ。
My Tenkara Rods:
13' Ayu, 12' Yamame, 11' with a conversion handle, and an Ito.

My Wife's Tenkara Rods:
12' Ebisu and 13.5' Amago, 12' Iwana with a conversion handle, and an Ito.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:46 pm 
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I can see that selling for $65+. I really like what you've done to the hinge. That is a lot of careful steps and I sincerely respect your craftsmanship. I just checked jasonklass' blog site and saw a review of your box. Really like the additional pics there also. I don't agree with everything he said but can see he is really fond of your work. We both can agree that your craftsmanship is fantastic. Though not as practical as my cheaper knock off C&F box IMHO, I can understand fly anglers taking it with them to the creek. If I can afford and fish a genuine bamboo tenkara stick I would, but a nice genuine TenkaraUSA stick will do for now.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:03 am 
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Mr. Setina, you, sir, are an artist.

A box like that makes fishing an experience and not just an activity.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 7:26 pm 
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Andrew McKenna wrote:
Mr. Setina, you, sir, are an artist.

A box like that makes fishing an experience and not just an activity.


Thank you Andrew. That's very nice of you to say.

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テンカラ。小さなストリームのシンプルさ。
My Tenkara Rods:
13' Ayu, 12' Yamame, 11' with a conversion handle, and an Ito.

My Wife's Tenkara Rods:
12' Ebisu and 13.5' Amago, 12' Iwana with a conversion handle, and an Ito.


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